Jee Su Chang Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) I've noticed that some cards that are photo variation short prints don't have anything distinguishing them in their CSG labels. PSA seems to either add an "SP" on the label or an extra description such as "Batting" or "Warm-up shirt" or something like that that helps distinguish the variation. Will CSG add something like this in the future? https://www.ebay.com/itm/2021-topps-113-nate-pearson-csg-9-5-RC-blue-Jays-/313596350533 https://www.ebay.com/itm/2021-Topps-Triston-McKenzie-Rookie-RC-319-SP-Photo-Variation-CSG-9-5-GEM-MT-/164953455795 Edited July 15, 2021 by Jee Su Chang Adding examples LAgambit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator NicholePer Posted July 16, 2021 Administrator Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/15/2021 at 11:30 AM, Jee Su Chang said: I've noticed that some cards that are photo variation short prints don't have anything distinguishing them in their CSG labels. PSA seems to either add an "SP" on the label or an extra description such as "Batting" or "Warm-up shirt" or something like that that helps distinguish the variation. Will CSG add something like this in the future? https://www.ebay.com/itm/2021-topps-113-nate-pearson-csg-9-5-RC-blue-Jays-/313596350533 https://www.ebay.com/itm/2021-Topps-Triston-McKenzie-Rookie-RC-319-SP-Photo-Variation-CSG-9-5-GEM-MT-/164953455795 Thank you for your question. That maybe a detail that CSG will add in the future. When we do, we will make an announcement about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunsRTonsOfFun Posted July 17, 2021 Report Share Posted July 17, 2021 They have an attribute for Image Variation. I've got two cards in Grading status right now that are SP variants and they have Image Variation listed as a card attribute. I think you need to specify it on your submission form. It would be pretty difficult for them to know or memorize the various image variation cards across all sports, all years, and all products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Harris Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 6:58 PM, PunsRTonsOfFun said: They have an attribute for Image Variation. I've got two cards in Grading status right now that are SP variants and they have Image Variation listed as a card attribute. I think you need to specify it on your submission form. It would be pretty difficult for them to know or memorize the various image variation cards across all sports, all years, and all products. First every short print graded by CSG HAS to be noted somehow, and Secondly if CSG wants to be considered a top tier grader they most certainly HAVE to know and be able to distinguish every variation that comes their way. Yes they may miss on from time to time but not because they didnt know it was a variation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brandon Melnick Posted July 21, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 These people are the definition of "Bad at what we do" It's the new American way. Being horrible at what you do. CSG ARE THE POSTERBOYS. They have been completely unable to manage incoming submissions. And deliver anything close to what they sold us. I sent CSG 16 different submissions in April and May. These submissions were mostly bulk value submissions at $8 per card with a 60 business day "estimated" turnaround time. However 3 were Standard submissions at $25 per card and had an "estimated" turnaround time of 30 days. Fast forward 70 business days... I have yet to have a single submission graded by these incompetent A holes. They refuse to acknowledge that they messed up and furthermore refuse to take responsibility and act accordingly. EACH OF MY 16 SUBMISSIONS IS NOW AT LEAST 20 DAYS OVER THEIR OWN ESTIMATED TURNAROUND TIME. My 3 Standard submissions are all over DOUBLE their estimated turnaround times and 2 of the 3 have not even been entered into their system. This tells me its only going to get closer to a 3x or 4x turnaround time multiplier for those! So I'm looking at a minimum 75 business day turnaround time for submissions I'm forced to pay $25 a card on and that was sold to me as a 30 day turnaround time. Today, sick of being taken advantage of and hearing excuses from them about how horrible they are at what they do, I called customer service and ensured I spoke to supervisor. I explained how 2-4x multipliers on 30 day submissions is not acceptable and I felt like they should only charge me the bulk value pricing that they actually are delivering. I was told that this is what is basically, and just to deal with it and that they would not be offering any credit or cancelations for orders they have already received. It didn't matter that their 30 business day estimate has already turned in to 75 days and I'm looking at over 100 days for the 2 submissions that haven't even been opened yet... These people are hopelessly incompetent and refuse to do right by their customers. In short, they won't be in business long. I would advise you to stay away from this company as they are: A) Horrible at what they do B) Hopelessly incompetent at running a business C) Have absolutely no problem screwing over their customers D) Have a very short life trajectory as a company so the slabs will be worthless in a couple of years. matt kross, DeLLBerto, ne1seenmykeys and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAgambit Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 The top part is what I filled in the form - "Image Variation" second attribute = "refractor" Yall dropped the Image Variation from the label for some reason. Please stop doing this... MountainG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollectorBB Posted August 6, 2021 Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 On 7/27/2021 at 2:18 PM, LAgambit said: The top part is what I filled in the form - "Image Variation" second attribute = "refractor" Yall dropped the Image Variation from the label for some reason. Please stop doing this... They are dropping parallel attributes a lot. I had about five where it happened and wasn't caught ... and I think one somehow actually affected the grade as the card difference may have been seen as a defect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBost33 Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 I know they can put "Action" on the slabs because they did it on one that was NOT an action variation. Then they left it off an Action Variation, and also left off Rainbow foil on another one. Been waiting 2 weeks for a mechanical correction form. 0 responses, so I will be making another phone call tomorrow. I have a bunch of orders that are ready to be paid for, not doing it until I get a form to fix these. It's ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBost33 Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 12:58 PM, NicholePer said: Thank you for your question. That maybe a detail that CSG will add in the future. When we do, we will make an announcement about it. Timeout.. you guys can do it now. You put action on card that wasn't, and then left it off one that should have been an Action card. Still no response for a mechanical error sheet from corporate.. sigh. Rob420 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerxst Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 On 7/19/2021 at 11:18 AM, Benny Harris said: First every short print graded by CSG HAS to be noted somehow, and Secondly if CSG wants to be considered a top tier grader they most certainly HAVE to know and be able to distinguish every variation that comes their way. Yes they may miss on from time to time but not because they didnt know it was a variation. all they have to do is look at tcdb.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picklepete Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 (edited) And as usual, they disappear from the questions that get tough to address. Why can't admin. get real answers... come on CSG ! Edited August 16, 2021 by Picklepete Lerxst 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitmasterflips Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 I’ve bought some cards and received a sub that was missing the variations or sub-set. I spoke to a supervisor who confirmed that parallels, serial #s, autos need to be written in the correct box when submitting. They will fix their mistake for free with overnight shipping both ways, but has the same wait time as express orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBost33 Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 On 8/25/2021 at 7:15 PM, hitmasterflips said: I’ve bought some cards and received a sub that was missing the variations or sub-set. I spoke to a supervisor who confirmed that parallels, serial #s, autos need to be written in the correct box when submitting. They will fix their mistake for free with overnight shipping both ways, but has the same wait time as express orders. Trust me, I have wrote exacly what I wanted in the box, and notes, they don't read them, or disregard them. I have so many examples.. I want mine to read exactly like a PSA card, they botched it several times. Granted they are fixing them, and yes paid for shipping. But now I am waiting 4 more weeks on their errors. ne1seenmykeys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
