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I collected more prolific in the early 2000's but started sporadic from 97. Stopped in 07 with the exception of a box or two in 2010 and 2014. Just got back from hibernation last NOvember so have a stockpile of cards from collecting and busting cases and boxes. So most of my cards ar from that era. I have everything from low ends to high ends and have started moving into one of my dreams which was to collect vintage cards. I moved some cards to acquire a PSA 7 Fleer JOrdan RC. Now my next goals are Bird/Johnson/Erving RC graded and a couple of HOFers that are graded. I feel that it is insane how the market is paying $$$$ for ultra modern RCs while these rare vintage RCs of HOFers go for equal to or much less than that. The potential for a drop off on the ultra modern vs the potential for continued increase in vintage just makes me want to move more cards toward vintage. For those who have been collecting vintage for a long time, any advice you can give for someone wanting to add more vintage to his collection? I am scared of fakes so I usually just buy from LCS I trust and also graded cards from reputable companies.

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It is going to depend on your goals. Are you looking at buying vintage cards strictly as an investment and/or for flipping VS collecting players/cards you like which hopefully will appreciate in value over time?

I have been buying/selling almost exclusively vintage cards for 30+ years and the biggest difference (Outside of the past 18 months) is that vintage material rarely is something you buy and flip 2 weeks later for a big markup. Prices of quality material tend to increase over time, but it sometimes can take years to see significant changes. I always suggest that people identify a few players they like and then some cards for each of those players you want. Do your research to see what the market is on those cards and then start shopping. I personally stick to graded cards for most anything I buy as an investment as they just way easier to resell, tend to have a better ROI vs raw and have a significantly lower risk of altered/fake cards. Unfortunately most shops and smaller shows offer a very limited selection of vintage material so you will likely have to look online or go to a larger show to find things you want. Buying raw vintage off ebay or some user group can be a real shoot as most people don't grade properly (Some on purpose, some from lack of knowledge)  I would say start small and see how you like what you buy before buying anything more expensive.

Feel free to use my website as a reference tool on vintage material and shoot me any q's you have.

Tim Payne

PayneSportsCollectibles.com

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4 hours ago, Dodgerfan001 said:

It is going to depend on your goals. Are you looking at buying vintage cards strictly as an investment and/or for flipping VS collecting players/cards you like which hopefully will appreciate in value over time?

I have been buying/selling almost exclusively vintage cards for 30+ years and the biggest difference (Outside of the past 18 months) is that vintage material rarely is something you buy and flip 2 weeks later for a big markup. Prices of quality material tend to increase over time, but it sometimes can take years to see significant changes. I always suggest that people identify a few players they like and then some cards for each of those players you want. Do your research to see what the market is on those cards and then start shopping. I personally stick to graded cards for most anything I buy as an investment as they just way easier to resell, tend to have a better ROI vs raw and have a significantly lower risk of altered/fake cards. Unfortunately most shops and smaller shows offer a very limited selection of vintage material so you will likely have to look online or go to a larger show to find things you want. Buying raw vintage off ebay or some user group can be a real shoot as most people don't grade properly (Some on purpose, some from lack of knowledge)  I would say start small and see how you like what you buy before buying anything more expensive.

Feel free to use my website as a reference tool on vintage material and shoot me any q's you have.

Tim Payne

PayneSportsCollectibles.com

Thank you, I will check your website out. I guess I am more of a collector and investor. I rarely sell but when I do like I did in last two Dallas card shows, they tend to be in the high ends. I do want to try out getting a table next year though as I get to understand the hobby more. I have a huge capital of cards from busting cases in my heyday. I do want to get into vintage basketball and last card show moved some Jordan and Lebron to acquire fleer Jordan PSA 7 RC and a couple of other PC high end stuff. My next goal is the bird/johnson/erving graded card. My cards are mostly modern so the fleer Jordan is actually my first vintage. I plan to diversify my portfolio of cards and move a lot kore of my moderns. I want to acquire graded vintage cards of a lot of the HOFers I admired ie Russell, chamberlain, Alcindor, Willis reed, Maravich, Havlicek, Jerry West, Dave bing, mychal Thompson, Barkley, Stockton, Malone etc

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