ItismeH Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 Hello, I sent in a walkthrough submission of my raw, 1986 Fleer Jordan RC and it was received by CSG at the beginning of March. It came back to me a little over a week ago, not encapsulated, sadly, which was very disappointing. The label it came with was EV (trimmed/altered), I was absolutely bummed since this is my prized card and I purchased it raw from a legitimate seller (local card shop owner) about 5 years ago. My question is if it is still able to be encapsulated with you guys and labeled as authentic altered? Does a submitter have to make that request? As a paid member, I'm still holding out hope that it can be since I enjoy the slabs and do not really want to send to another company and want my card slabbed for a peace of mind. Thanks for listening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItismeH Posted March 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 On a side note I've been working with customer service since I've received my order back, via email, who have been very helpful, but I'm just trying to get a definitive answer and solution to my situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator CardGrader Posted March 26, 2021 Administrator Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 CSG will be able to encapsulate cards such as this one as Authentic Altered in the near future. Watch for an announcement on the website and through social media. ItismeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItismeH Posted March 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 3 hours ago, CardGrader said: CSG will be able to encapsulate cards such as this one as Authentic Altered in the near future. Watch for an announcement on the website and through social media. I am beyond thrilled! Thank you very much for the response! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanr Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 You might want to check if that card is a Reprint. There are different ways that you can check. One of the ways is by looking to see if the card has "dots" in the yellow banner on the top right. If it is original, let me tell you, its a very valuable card and you should get it slabbed at PSA. If its a reprint, you have to label it as a reprint or no one will grade it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItismeH Posted March 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Juanr said: You might want to check if that card is a Reprint. There are different ways that you can check. One of the ways is by looking to see if the card has "dots" in the yellow banner on the top right. If it is original, let me tell you, its a very valuable card and you should get it slabbed at PSA. If its a reprint, you have to label it as a reprint or no one will grade it. I trust the graders' expertise along with their tools who have already examined the card and it did not come back to me as questionable authenticity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dictoresno Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 aside from that card potentially being a reprint, I have noticed alot of EV returned cards in sub reveals on YouTube. seems like CSG may be either very strict (which can be good for detecting trimmed cards) or erroneously kicking back more cards than normal that aren't tampered with, but they are erring on the side of caution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin's Cards Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 On 3/25/2021 at 11:52 PM, ItismeHerb said: Hello, I sent in a walkthrough submission of my raw, 1986 Fleer Jordan RC and it was received by CSG at the beginning of March. It came back to me a little over a week ago, not encapsulated, sadly, which was very disappointing. The label it came with was EV (trimmed/altered), I was absolutely bummed since this is my prized card and I purchased it raw from a legitimate seller (local card shop owner) about 5 years ago. My question is if it is still able to be encapsulated with you guys and labeled as authentic altered? Does a submitter have to make that request? As a paid member, I'm still holding out hope that it can be since I enjoy the slabs and do not really want to send to another company and want my card slabbed for a peace of mind. Thanks for listening. Hello. If you don't mind me asking, what were you charged for this EV card to be examined? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItismeH Posted March 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, Chin's Cards said: Hello. If you don't mind me asking, what were you charged for this EV card to be examined? No problem at all. Under their terms and conditions, I was charged the grading fee, which in my case was $100 for a walkthrough submission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin's Cards Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, ItismeHerb said: No problem at all. Under their terms and conditions, I was charged the grading fee, which in my case was $100 for a walkthrough submission. Thanks for the quick reply. Did you also pay for the shipping you selected? ItismeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItismeH Posted March 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 Just now, Chin's Cards said: Thanks for the quick reply. Did you also pay for the shipping you selected? All of the included fees were added on such as the online submission fee, shipping fees etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin's Cards Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 minute ago, ItismeHerb said: All of the included fees were added on such as the online submission fee, shipping fees etc. Gotcha, that was my assumption. I'm asking all of this because I have been hearing multiple people on different platforms saying that when their card was rejected for whatever reason, they were NOT charged. So I'm just trying to get to the bottom of this paying vs. non-paying for not being slabbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItismeH Posted March 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Chin's Cards said: Gotcha, that was my assumption. I'm asking all of this because I have been hearing multiple people on different platforms saying that when their card was rejected for whatever reason, they were NOT charged. So I'm just trying to get to the bottom of this paying vs. non-paying for not being slabbed. My best advice is to go under the grading/submit section on their website, you'll most likely find the answer you're looking for, otherwise it can be answered here in the forum. Edited March 31, 2021 by ItismeHerb added words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kypackman Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 8:54 AM, CardGrader said: CSG will be able to encapsulate cards such as this one as Authentic Altered in the near future. Watch for an announcement on the website and through social media. Thanks for replying to the original post. Is there any plan to provide grader notes as CGC does? I think it would be especially helpful at least for the high $ cards sent in through the walkthrough service. When you send in a $30-50K card and it comes back ungraded and you get no explanation on why the grader thought it was trimmed/altered it is disappointing to say the least. Some type of note such as "Card trimmed on left side" or "color touch top left corner" would be helpful. Thanks. ItismeH and Hamilton's CSG collection 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Popular Post CardGrader Posted April 5, 2021 Administrator Popular Post Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 Yes, We will be rolling out something soon to help explain why a card is being returned. KBost33, EagleEyeKid and ItismeH 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch4ActionNews Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 FYI - you may want to consider subbing this one to bcg. PSA sent my #57 as authentic / altered and now I have an 8.5. Mine wasn’t trimmed though just had spent too much time in a screw down. Either way for $125 for a “5-day” (2-3) weeks it is worth a shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItismeH Posted April 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Ch4ActionNews said: FYI - you may want to consider subbing this one to bcg. PSA sent my #57 as authentic / altered and now I have an 8.5. Mine wasn’t trimmed though just had spent too much time in a screw down. Either way for $125 for a “5-day” (2-3) weeks it is worth a shot Not saying never say never but trying to stay away from BGS and definitely PSA and SGC. And a huge no to GMA😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleEyeKid Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 Sorry to hear about that MJ. Not to sidetrack this thread, but does CSG charge your CC after the sub is done or when it's logged? ItismeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItismeH Posted April 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, EagleEyeKid said: Sorry to hear about that MJ. Not to sidetrack this thread, but does CSG charge your CC after the sub is done or when it's logged? No worries, your CC gets charged when the status enters the grading phase under submission tracking. And you're charged unless you get the label that says SU (Service Unavailable)... otherwise in a case like mine, I was charged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Famuliner Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 7:54 AM, CardGrader said: CSG will be able to encapsulate cards such as this one as Authentic Altered in the near future. Watch for an announcement on the website and through social media. Hi! Has this been updated? Will CSG now encapsulate Authentic Altered cards, or are we still waiting on that? Thank you! ItismeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucio Barbarino Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) That's too bad. I think the card is probably trimmed at the top or bottom if I had to guess. Adding up the top margin and bottom margin , the card looks overall a little short. Edited May 19, 2021 by Lucio Barbarino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollectorBB Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 To me the left side looks a little wavy gravy in comparison to the penny sleeve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItismeH Posted May 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 On 5/14/2021 at 8:51 AM, Ryan Famuliner said: Hi! Has this been updated? Will CSG now encapsulate Authentic Altered cards, or are we still waiting on that? Thank you! Following Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
