Greg Christiansen Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 That escalated quickly. PunsRTonsOfFun and ItismeH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormysweather Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 Economy took the biggest percentage increase from 40 to 75 days. Ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Acevedo III Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 Did they even let customers know? Or did they just let that update slip through. I wonder if they'll honor the 40 days when you originally submitted/purchased. frisco204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Christiansen Posted April 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 They got us with the dates. Jacked them up after they had tons of submissions. Give it two weeks and it will be 120 days...Working days that is. So basically after the baseball season is over. Cool. ItismeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Campbell Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 Doubtful...I am very i unsatisfied with the service thus far. I submitted economy and they have physically had my cards for over three weeks and still haven’t opened the box!! Two weeks in a row I have been told they are processing orders from the week of March 8th! So now, I have wasted over three weeks at their facility and the turnaround has increased from 40 days to 75. Already just like every other grading company (except HGA)...sell a service at 2-15 days + 40 additional days and provide 15+ days (still unknown) + 75 additional days. Good thing I sent in PC Cards to test the waters! Would be thoroughly upset if I had sent in something of high value. Now I know...pay out the nose to compete with the flippers or send somewhere else that values achieving the service that is sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmagoo Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Stormysweather said: Economy took the biggest percentage increase from 40 to 75 days. Ugh Didn't Express go from 15 Business Days to 30 Business days? Either way this is what I expected would happen with PSA essentially shutting down to new subs and SGC raising their base price to $75 per card. I doubt that CSG is prepared for the volume of material they will now be getting either. My guess is that they will increase the times at all tiers again very soon. Edited April 8, 2021 by mrmagoo ItismeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ItismeH Posted April 8, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 35 minutes ago, mrmagoo said: Didn't Express go from 15 Business Days to 30 Business days? Either way this is what I expected would happen with PSA essentially shutting down to new subs and SGC raising their base price to $75 per card. I doubt that CSG is prepared for the volume of material they will now be getting either. My guess is that they will increase the times at all tiers again very soon. Anyone who never anticipated something like this happening is either very naive or very unfamiliar with the current state of the grading industry 🤷🏻♂️😅 PunsRTonsOfFun, Brian Wentz and hbray 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Christiansen Posted April 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, ItismeHerb said: Anyone who never anticipated something like this happening is either very naive or very unfamiliar with the current state of the grading industry 🤷🏻♂️😅 Were not the ones who set the rules CSG did. They're were naive from the start. We as the "demand" have nothing to do with it. We all are familiar with the state of the industry but CSG is one who set the terms to attract customers with false hopes...indicating they had their stuff together. They do not. If I sell you a car with a 10 year warranty I'm not allowed to change that to a 4 year warranty before you drive off the lot. I don't think anyway...I'm not a car salesman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItismeH Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 28 minutes ago, Greg Christiansen said: Were not the ones who set the rules CSG did. They're were naive from the start. We as the "demand" have nothing to do with it. We all are familiar with the state of the industry but CSG is one who set the terms to attract customers with false hopes...indicating they had their stuff together. They do not. If I sell you a car with a 10 year warranty I'm not allowed to change that to a 4 year warranty before you drive off the lot. I don't think anyway...I'm not a car salesman. Just keep in mind these estimated turnaround times were in place before the whole PSA fiasco. Good luck with your sub and enjoy your weekend👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Christiansen Posted April 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 Just now, ItismeHerb said: Just keep in mind these estimated turnaround times were in place before the whole PSA fiasco. Good luck with your sub and enjoy your weekend👍 To be honest I've been looking at restoring late 60s model muscle car to pass the time. maybe early 70s. take my mind off of it. I have 12 more submissions ready to go but I'd like my 3 in progress to be done first. I found a 69 Chevelle for 1,500...I'm looking into it. ItismeH and bandit100866 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnl702 Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 Just now, Greg Christiansen said: To be honest I've been looking at restoring late 60s model muscle car to pass the time. maybe early 70s. take my mind off of it. I have 12 more submissions ready to go but I'd like my 3 in progress to be done first. I found a 69 Chevelle for 1,500...I'm looking into it. It's a money pit. The mechanical part isn't bad, but if you don't know body work it gets pricey quick! As long as they log the cards in quicker I'm ok with the wait. It's not income for me. I hate not knowing if my cards are secure or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollectorBB Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 So, is it correct to assume that previously submitted orders default to this slower time on the slowest orders ... but with the advantage of being in line sooner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunsRTonsOfFun Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 2 hours ago, ItismeHerb said: Anyone who never anticipated something like this happening is either very naive or very unfamiliar with the current state of the grading industry 🤷🏻♂️😅 Couldn’t agree more. PSA shutting down and SGC increasing prices buried CSG. Flippers only had one place to turn with their junk wax base cards and flavors of the week. I’m sure there are several hundred Darnold RCs awaiting grading at CSG right now. ItismeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Christiansen Posted April 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 hour ago, johnl702 said: It's a money pit. The mechanical part isn't bad, but if you don't know body work it gets pricey quick! As long as they log the cards in quicker I'm ok with the wait. It's not income for me. I hate not knowing if my cards are secure or not. Welding and fabrication is my personal specialty. The mechanical/engine stuff is just plain fun to learn and do, so far so good since my first chevy 4.3 engine rebuild on my S-10 Blazer back when i was like..20 ish. paint ...is annoying part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnl702 Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 You're good then! I haven't done welding since high school. Everything I find that's affordable is a rust bucket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_B Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 Surprised the pricing didn’t increase along with the turnaround times....that’ll come next... ItismeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItismeH Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 29 minutes ago, M_B said: Surprised the pricing didn’t increase along with the turnaround times....that’ll come next... Hopefully not but I definitely wouldn't be shocked if they did. Still debating whether or not to make one more submission or just wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Mares Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 Seriously.....While I am not shocked holy batman. PSA closes down for 3 months. SGC basically says screw you, we don't want your business.... So look at CSG. Times are going to inflate even more people get in while you can.... Graded Cards will start going for triple their current prices in 4 months time. ItismeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timkipp2 Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 15 hours ago, mrmagoo said: Didn't Express go from 15 Business Days to 30 Business days? Either way this is what I expected would happen with PSA essentially shutting down to new subs and SGC raising their base price to $75 per card. I doubt that CSG is prepared for the volume of material they will now be getting either. My guess is that they will increase the times at all tiers again very soon. They prolly shouldnt have added bulk grading from guys like cade and others if they cant handle people sending in on there own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Christiansen Posted April 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 I sit at home wondering if they work a normal 5 days a week or 7 days a week for those that want overtime. If they work 8 hour days or 10 hour days and take overtime volunteers for the other 3 days of the week. Or...do they do 4/10s and also a 3/12 schedule for the weekend shift...and eliminate the OT all together. If they are planning to open different submission/grading locations in the US. It boggles my mind there is only 1 spot to send CSG submissions to. I've said it before but that's like a guy in New York ordering his Starbucks straight from Seattle. Insane. Which ever grading company figures this out and does any kind of data analysis on projections, wins. I honestly hope CSG does this. I absolutely prefer their slabs to any other. I checked the website no openings for VP of operations. and i would ask about the use of Emojis in the interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmoore_25 Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 One interesting fact that I found was on YouTube there is an interview with CSG on April 5th and CSG says they have 10 full time graders for their sports card line. That's it. 10 people are never going to be able to cut into the backlog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ne1seenmykeys Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 22 hours ago, Angel Acevedo III said: Did they even let customers know? Or did they just let that update slip through. I wonder if they'll honor the 40 days when you originally submitted/purchased. They'll honor it if they can, sure, but as it says on any website for a company that grades cards, even when it said "40 days" that is no guarantee. So when you say "I wonder will they honor it" it's not a matter of honoring anything, as they get themselves out of that liability to begin with by saying, "No guarantees on turnaround time, these are just estimates." ItismeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ne1seenmykeys Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 21 hours ago, Glen Campbell said: Doubtful...I am very i unsatisfied with the service thus far. I submitted economy and they have physically had my cards for over three weeks and still haven’t opened the box!! Two weeks in a row I have been told they are processing orders from the week of March 8th! So now, I have wasted over three weeks at their facility and the turnaround has increased from 40 days to 75. Already just like every other grading company (except HGA)...sell a service at 2-15 days + 40 additional days and provide 15+ days (still unknown) + 75 additional days. Good thing I sent in PC Cards to test the waters! Would be thoroughly upset if I had sent in something of high value. Now I know...pay out the nose to compete with the flippers or send somewhere else that values achieving the service that is sold. Honestly man you sound over-reactionary to the extreme. What do you think happened when PSA shut down and SGC raised their prices to 75/card? CSG prob got hit with an absolute onslaught of cards and they have adjusted their turnaround times as a result of it. In terms of their having your cards for three weeks before opening them, that's 15 business days, 25 business days and a full month and a half of pure calendar days until their previously-guessed 40 business day turnaround. I mean, it literally says on their website (and everyone else except HGA) there are no guarantees, and if you are submitting cards to CSG then you should know what's going on in the market right now. I just don't understand why everyone is so upset. I have two bulk orders I sent in when it said 60 days. Not it says 80 days. So the hell what??? Esp if they are PC cards then what does it matter? You're not going to sell them and there's no deadline and at economy prices you paid 15/card. ItismeH and KBost33 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickdrizzle Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 23 hours ago, Angel Acevedo III said: I wonder if they'll honor the 40 days when you originally submitted/purchased. hahahahaha. i sent some cards to cgc in january when their tat was 30 days... it is now sitting at 142. you will not be grandfathered in ccarmichael and ItismeH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Christiansen Posted April 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 Arrived March 15th NO updates 20 Working days = 26 actual days...Hello darkness my old friend... ItismeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
