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Why does CSG grade 1986-87 OPC “blank back” Patrick Roy cards?
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Given that the Patrick Roy card was a part of the 1986-87 display box (OPC cards were the same size as the real card), and also the broad prevalence of 9-card blank back panels with Patrick Roy in the middle of the panel on eBay, I don’t grasp why CSG wouldn’t mark all Patrick Roy blank backs from that year as “hand cut” or “panel cut” (as appropriate) or refuse to grade them altogether.

There is a reason why there are ZERO blank back examples for sale on eBay: PSA won’t grade, since they are likely panel/box cut.

BGS graded them, because BGS has openly graded cards cut by non-manufacturer machines that meet minimum standards. KSA grades them, because KSA has graded lots of cards that PSA would deem “Evidence of Trimming” cards. Finding out that CSG also graded them was shocking. I thought CSG was tough on their grading standards, so it’s surprising that they would grade cards that were cut after market.

Here is a link to the eBay listing, in case you wanted to contact the seller/submitter to ask them to return the cards for inspection:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/334595278590

The CSG page for the card is:

https://www.csgcards.com/certlookup/1030611030/

Here are links to eBay listings of the different formats (8-card vs 9-card) of Patrick Roy blank back panels:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/385071757101

https://www.ebay.com/itm/124584313108

A quick search will reveal that all the cards submitted by that individual to CSG are available on 9-card blank back panels from user “collectcanada” on eBay.

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On 4/9/2023 at 3:21 AM, KaileeS CS said:

Hello @northkorea, thank you for contacting CSG. I have reached out to our grading team for further clarification on your question and will respond once I receive an answer. We thank you for your patience in the meantime!

Any update on this?

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On 4/9/2023 at 3:21 AM, KaileeS CS said:

Hello @northkorea, thank you for contacting CSG. I have reached out to our grading team for further clarification on your question and will respond once I receive an answer. We thank you for your patience in the meantime!

Still waiting. Has there been any response?

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Hello @northkorea, thank you for patiently waiting for a reply! I have messaged the grading team, and they have replied that these cards were supposed to be labeled as "Hand Cut" (displayed on the label), but this might have been missed. This has been discussed with CSG's head grading team, and if these cards come in in the future, they will be properly identified. Thank you!


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On 5/7/2023 at 3:15 AM, KaileeS CS said:

Hello @northkorea, thank you for patiently waiting for a reply! I have messaged the grading team, and they have replied that these cards were supposed to be labeled as "Hand Cut" (displayed on the label), but this might have been missed. This has been discussed with CSG's head grading team, and if these cards come in in the future, they will be properly identified. Thank you!


Thanks for checking into this. :)

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