New Label Reholder Question 2 2

[PunsRTonsOfFun]

Love the new label. Quick question regarding the reholder offer. Will cards previously graded 9.5 Gem Mint cross to Gem Mint 10 if submitted for reholder? Or will only previously Pristine 10s cross to the new Gem Mint 10? I'm hoping Gem Mint is still Gem Mint with this change CSG is just changing the scale to eliminate confusion in the hobby and match the competition.

[RyanCSG]

@PunsRTonsOfFun

A green label Gem Mint 9.5 will cross to a new black label Gem Mint 10.  Pristine 10s will also become Gem Mint 10s in the new label.

[Jee Su Chang]

Related to this, if a card was a pristine 10 without subgrades, will it be re-evaluated during a reholder for a perfect 10?

[JohnBurke]

On 3/25/2022 at 1:28 PM, RyanCSG said:

@PunsRTonsOfFun

A green label Gem Mint 9.5 will cross to a new black label Gem Mint 10.  Pristine 10s will also become Gem Mint 10s in the new label.

So green label 9.5s and green label pristine 10s are being lumped into the same category then? And this data will be combined in the pop report? So that kind of cheapens a black label gem mint 10 compared to a green label pristine 10 right?

[AM Cards]

Well, if all 9.5s will cross to 10's, I'll definitely send some in.  However, I don't know why anyone would send in Pristine 10s to get reholdered as GEM MINT 10s?

[Ryan Snyder]

The Rep I spoke to on the phone indicated that all reholders will be cracked open and not guaranteed to cross at any specific grade and advised not sending in the 9.5 that were previously gem mint?

 

Can you clarify? @RyanCSG

 

Similarly a 9 with subgrades of 9 and 9.5 may cross into a 9.5 in the new black label as well?

 

 

Edited March 25, 2022 by Ryan Snyder

[PunsRTonsOfFun]

On 3/25/2022 at 12:58 PM, JohnBurke said:

So green label 9.5s and green label pristine 10s are being lumped into the same category then? And this data will be combined in the pop report? So that kind of cheapens a black label gem mint 10 compared to a green label pristine 10 right?

Correct...it was sort of dubious differentiation to begin with. The difference between a Pristine and a Gem Mint was one subgrade and a half point.

[PunsRTonsOfFun]

On 3/25/2022 at 1:00 PM, Ryan Snyder said:

The Rep I spoke to on the phone indicated that all reholders will be cracked open and not guaranteed to cross at any specific grade and advised not sending in the 9.5 that were previously gem mint?

 

Can you clarify? @RyanCSG

 

Similarly a 9 with subgrades of 9 and 9.5 may cross into a 9.5 in the new black label as well?

 

 

The changes CSG announced today are great and change the game in the grading industry, but they will become problematic if we get two different answers from two different resources.

[AM Cards]

On 3/25/2022 at 12:28 PM, RyanCSG said:

@PunsRTonsOfFun

A green label Gem Mint 9.5 will cross to a new black label Gem Mint 10.  Pristine 10s will also become Gem Mint 10s in the new label.

But will that happen AUTOMATICALLY for all cards or are they going to be re-evaluated and some may become 9s or the "new 9.5"?

[RyanCSG]

This was from our Senior Grading Finalizer Andy Broome on Twitter to confirm my response earlier about green label Gem Mint 9.5s crossing to black label Gem Mint 10s.  They will not need to be regraded.

[GRDK]

Might be helpful for CSG to do FAQ on this. The 9.5, 10 clarity will be important for determining what to send in for reholder.  But new labels and system should help CSG loyal customers and may help with resale value compared especially to PSA. 

[Tails01]

Just to clarify (again),

This will automatically cross to a Gem Mint 10 with the new label, correct?

I just send it in for the $10 reholder fee?

[PunsRTonsOfFun]

On 3/25/2022 at 2:23 PM, Tails01 said:

Just to clarify (again),

This will automatically cross to a Gem Mint 10 with the new label, correct?

I just send it in for the $10 reholder fee?

It's just $5 until 6/30/22, not $10.

[DylKyl]

So would this count as a gem meant 10 if sent in or a perfect 10?

[DylKyl]

On 3/25/2022 at 10:28 AM, RyanCSG said:

@PunsRTonsOfFun

A green label Gem Mint 9.5 will cross to a new black label Gem Mint 10.  Pristine 10s will also become Gem Mint 10s in the new label.

What would this be then?

On 3/25/2022 at 11:31 AM, RyanCSG said:

This was from our Senior Grading Finalizer Andy Broome on Twitter to confirm my response earlier about green label Gem Mint 9.5s crossing to black label Gem Mint 10s.  They will not need to be regraded.

 

[PunsRTonsOfFun]

On 3/25/2022 at 2:42 PM, DylKyl said:

So would this count as a gem meant 10 if sent in or a perfect 10?

This would be a Gem 10, not Perfect. Perfect requires all four subgrades being 10s.

[jsrva]

On 3/25/2022 at 3:42 PM, DylKyl said:

So would this count as a gem meant 10 if sent in or a perfect 10?

I'd honestly leave it in the green slab. Great eye appeal. I am not sending any of my green Soto 9.5s in for reholder.

[AM Cards]

On 3/25/2022 at 3:22 PM, jsrva said:

I'd honestly leave it in the green slab. Great eye appeal. I am not sending any of my green Soto 9.5s in for reholder.

If it's for a PC, I agree.  But If you are selling on Ebay, people will start to search for CSG 10 and may miss the old 9.5s.  I always put "CSG 9.5 GEM MINT" in my titles, but I don't know if people search that way or not.  I am going to re-holder my bigger cards that are now 9.5s such as Brady, Morant, etc...but I will probably leave the lesser ones that got 9.5s as they are.

[jsrva]

On 3/25/2022 at 4:44 PM, AM Cards said:

If it's for a PC, I agree.  But If you are selling on Ebay, people will start to search for CSG 10 and may miss the old 9.5s.  I always put "CSG 9.5 GEM MINT" in my titles, but I don't know if people search that way or not.  I am going to re-holder my bigger cards that are now 9.5s such as Brady, Morant, etc...but I will probably leave the lesser ones that got 9.5s as they are.

100% doing the same. Auctions for CSG cards have been a disaster on eBay for sellers. Hoping the new standardized 10 Gem Mint grade will help with that.

[Blobiej25]

Does anyone know for reslab of an OG green GM 9.5 to a GM 10, would we just send in the slabs as is and CSG will crack them and then reslab to the GM 10?

[oluckydayo]

On 3/25/2022 at 5:05 PM, jsrva said:

100% doing the same. Auctions for CSG cards have been a disaster on eBay for sellers. Hoping the new standardized 10 Gem Mint grade will help with that.

Using the auction sell method on a brand that has only been around for a year and doesn't have name recognition is a seller problem (especially people who list with .99 starting price) . 

List the card for what it's worth using BIN, and be patient.  Auctions by nature are meant for products that have an initial high demand.  People can't have a demand for things they don't know exist.

[Warner85]

On 3/25/2022 at 12:29 PM, Jee Su Chang said:

Related to this, if a card was a pristine 10 without subgrades, will it be re-evaluated during a reholder for a perfect 10?

Same question here… Admin?

[Shockmaster]

I purchased a card from eBay that has the incorrect set listed on the slab. If I send this in to be reholdered, will the new slab be updated with the correct set?

 

[oluckydayo]

On 3/25/2022 at 9:07 PM, Warner85 said:

Same question here… Admin?

I believe they have the subgrades on file, whether you included them on slab or not.  So if they are 10/10/10/10 on file, it should be re-holdered with a Perfect designation.

[Jee Su Chang]

On 3/25/2022 at 8:51 PM, oluckydayo said:

I believe they have the subgrades on file, whether you included them on slab or not.  So if they are 10/10/10/10 on file, it should be re-holdered with a Perfect designation.

Hopefully they will tell us what those were and let us decide whether to reholder. I feel like I might want to keep pristine 10 green over gem mint 10 black.