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  1. DUDE YES!! If they offered a price of just a few bucks or a couple bucks for subgrades I would literally get them on every single card, which, in the end gets CSG more money than if I only get them on higher-priced cards! Win-win! I think I'm confused here. I thought the human interaction with the cards was basically to shore up what the computer has graded via AI technology, meaning there is a human element to every card that goes through there. I guess I'm missing something here, bc how is there a more detailed look into the card's centering if it needs subgrades? Wouldn't each card be graded the same exact way regardless of it is getting subgrades or not? Please correct me if I'm misinterpreting something here, but I'm curious just like OP to see the answer to this.
    4 points
  2. xjdan89

    Sub Grade Cost

    Clear as day. There are two grading standards. A 10 without subs may actually be a 9.5, or 9.... or maybe a 7.5 with subs.... Pretty clear explanation, and now I get it. Two different standards. Unfortunately, I hate that answer. I have gotten back several 10's w/o subs and was considering resubmitting them w/ subs because a 10 w/ subs is visually more appealing. However, I'm planning on doing an SGC crossover now. I hate that CSG maintains two different grading standards and disguises them as one (under the same label, brand, etc...). It seems deceiving, and wrong. I would've preferred an answer like "we're greedy". That would've been better than "we maintain two different grading standards and haven't told you all along".
    3 points
  3. I just wanted to let everyone know that the CSG Registry is now live: https://www.csgcards.com/registry/ If you have a new set request: CLICK HERE
    3 points
  4. Aaron Judge CS186017 Hello, Thank you for the request. We will add this to our list of sets to create.
    2 points
  5. Requesting Cal Ripken Jr. Player set 1983 Donruss #279 Cal Ripken Jr. CSG 8.5 1006658073 Hello, Thank you for the request. We will add this to our list of sets to create.
    2 points
  6. xjdan89

    Sub Grade Cost

    Why does it cost $10 extra for sub grades? Here me out. The grading professionals aren't doing anything extra - they obviously know what the sub grades are as they're grading the card itself. I'm willing to bet that the sub grades are stored in a database somewhere (because every company is data hungry these days, why wouldn't you keep that info). Especially when a customer gets a 10 or 9.5 back and wants to resubmit with sub grades - it'll be handy to have those in the system ready to go. I know ink isn't free, but does it really cost $10 to print a few extra characters on the label? The cost doesn't seem to justify itself. I could see doing a few bucks extra, sure. With the price point being $10 it really just feels like a cash grab. ESPECIALLY when my first few bulk orders were $8 a card. How does it take $10 to print a few extra characters on a label when the cost to grade was originally only $8. Is there a way CSG can justify the high price tag for such a minor addition?
    2 points
  7. Buyer's dream! With the Blackstone acquisition and already established partnership with Fanatics, the future is bright for CSG. They're the only grading company positioned to compete with PSA in the long term (5+ years from now). That's not great now for flippers, but too damn bad.
    2 points
  8. I have a much larger bulk sub that I just submitted as well, but was really happy with the grades on these as well as the turnaround time. Took ~ 35 days from the day they entered the system until I had them back for a standard submission. FYI The Haaland is /25 and the Adeyemi is /50. I was lucky enough to pull both of these from my 1 box of this year's UEFA Sapphire.
    2 points
  9. RyanCSG

    Sub Grade Cost

    Hello Everyone, We apologize for the confusing response to the original question about charging for sub-grades. There is no double standard when it comes to CSG grading. Cards are graded the same, whether the submitter has requested sub-grades or not. However, sub-grades do take more time during the grading process. When a card is submitted to CSG, it is evaluated by the graders, and all four sub-grades are considered when determining a card's grade. When sub-grades are requested, there is essentially an extra step of confirming and recording the sub-grades, which slows down the grading process. That's the distinction and the reason for the fee.
    2 points
  10. jwhauser

    Sub Grade Cost

    When I opened this thread, I was expecting the "too expensive for sub-grade" and all the rationale for why CSG should be doing this at a cheaper rate or free since they already have the scores from grading. I did, but immediately saw the double standard for grading based upon the sub-grade service. I absolutely get wanting answers and that's what some posts were. Others were venting and ripping. But you're right. This is the place where it can happen. At least you have to be a member to get into the chat rooms so everyone hear has a vested interest and I need to keep that in mind. Appreciate you pointing that out.
    2 points
  11. I think the question is are cards graded with subgrades held to a higher standard than those without? If this is case, it would have been nice to know before I submitted and will likely determine whether I submit with CSG again in the future. I've defended CSG on this forum and social media at every turn, understanding that a new company would have growing pains given the current state of the hobby. If there are two different grading standards based on subgrades and it wasn't publicly disclosed, I can't and won't defend that.
    2 points
  12. KD Cards

    Sub Grade Cost

    I think a Pandora's box has been opened here, the cost to sub grade is now secondary. If there are two standards to their grading system, they might as well close the shop. You can't shake people down for sub grades to get "undivided" attention to a card. If that's the case, they need to be real transparent on the website and let people decide for themselves.
    2 points
  13. 2 points
  14. 💯 I only search for CSG on EBay right now.
    2 points
  15. My guess is a few reasons: 1. April/May were the largest submission months and the bulk of their backlog (prices raised at some point after this, and estimates went up which may have slowed submissions). 2. They hired a LOT more people, especially given the influx of cash their money got when new investors came in. 3. They started the policy of asking people to write the service type on the outside of the package around June. This probably helped them more efficiently sort packages received from that point. All of these led to the open dates increasing more quickly over the past month. For a while they were progressing only a week of openings each week in July (not catching up at all). In late August they started completing two weeks of openings per one week of time. Can also confirm my package was delivered in July and opened about a week ago, so they are truly caught up to around that point.
    2 points
  16. xjdan89

    Sub Grade Cost

    Thank you CSG for responding to my question, but honestly this has raised more concerns than alleviated. It really feels like there are two sets of standards now when it comes to grading. Does this mean a CSG 10 without sub-grades is "less than" a CSG 10 with sub grades (I'm not talking visual appearance of the label here - I'm talking actual grading process/scrutiny)? Two different standards entirely? Isn't that essentially going to render any pop report (assuming one is coming in the future) irrelevant (unless sub grades are baked into the pop report equation, which would likely be a mess to visualize).
    2 points
  17. Tatis Jr. set: 2018 Bowman Chrome #Bowman Trending #-FT Fernando Tatis Jr. 1003245003 Hello, Thank you for the request. We will add this slot soon.
    1 point
  18. 2017 Score Football Hello, Thank you for the request. We will add this to our list of sets to create.
    1 point
  19. Player set for Harmon Killebrew Hello, Thank you for the request. We will add this to our list of sets to create.
    1 point
  20. Frank Robinson Topps Run Hello, Thank you for the request. We will add this to our list of sets to create.
    1 point
  21. Aaron Judge Hello, Thank you for the request. We will add your name to our previous request for Aaron Judge player set and will notify you when the set is available.
    1 point
  22. We need to Add a set for the Player Barry Sanders... Thank You Hello, Thank you for the request. We will add this to our list of sets to create.
    1 point
  23. Red Sox Retired Numbers. Any csg graded card of: Bobby Doerr Joe Cronin Johnny Pesky Yaz Ted Williams Jim Rice Wade Boggs Carlton Fisk David Ortiz Pedro Martinez Jackie Robinson Thanks! Hello, Thank you for the request. We will add this to our list of sets to consider.
    1 point
  24. Justin Herbert Football Hello, Thank you for the request. We will add this to our list of sets to create.
    1 point
  25. Joe Burrow 1004474002 1004474091 Hello, Thank you for the request. We will add this to our list of sets to create.
    1 point
  26. Add Steve Carlton #335 to 1976 Topps Set please Hello, Thank you for the request. We will add a slot for #355 Steve Carlton soon.
    1 point
  27. 2020 bowman chrome Cert #1009866001 Hello, Thank you for the request. For future slot requests, please use the dedicated SLOT REQUEST topic on the Chat Boards. This slot has been added to the player set for Luis Robert. We will add your request for a 2020 Bowman Chrome Rookie Autograph set to our list to review.
    1 point
  28. Ozzie Albies 2018 TOPPS HERITAGE 1969 TOPPS DECKLE EDGE #11 1004057096 Bo Bichette 2020 TOPPS CHROME #150 Pink Refractor 1004840016 Hello, Thank you for the requests. We will add those slots soon.
    1 point
  29. Hello, Thank you for the request. We will add that slot soon.
    1 point
  30. @Yeahiwasder4dat All bulk submissions are currently on an estimated 139 working days turnaround. CSG always works off the current schedule listed here. PLEASE NOTE: Turnaround times are estimates only and are NOT guaranteed. Your bulk submission would be running on the current CSG turnaround times which are at an estimated 139 working days. Feel free to reach out to CSG customer service at Service@csgcards.com if you need further assistance.
    1 point
  31. They might have some resell value by then 😂
    1 point
  32. You are absolutely correct that the value of CSG slabs are well below the grading cost. I just found that out the hard way. Never again
    1 point
  33. oluckydayo

    Sub Grade Cost

    I'd be willing to be that's a misinformed message above and there are not 'two standards'. I think it's as simple as they already have fairly low prices among their competitors for most tiers, and it's a way to recoup some of that for cards that customers will want subgrades on.
    1 point
  34. Anyone else got any modern to show? Got these back with subs and pretty happy with the grades.
    1 point
  35. Warner85

    Sub Grade Cost

    Would really like to see an Admin response to this..
    1 point
  36. The Upper Deck Company has announced its plans for 2021-22 Synergy Hockey. This is Upper Deck’s fifth release of Synergy, known for its low production and low serial numbering. This year, Upper Deck has gone heavy on the parallels, trying to deliver as many low serial numbers per box as possible. READ MORE
    1 point
  37. Yeah you'll prob wanna cal them for that bc mine was received on 6/17 and in g/e/i right now (has been for more than a minute, too)
    1 point
  38. In the world of baseball card collecting, few sets are as cherished as the one released in 1933 by Goudey Gum Company of Boston. The 240-card set includes more than 60 cards that feature hall of famers, several of whose names have become synonymous with the sport of baseball. Certified Sports Guaranty® (CSG™) recently graded six of the 1933 Goudey cards, including four Babe Ruth cards that continue to be top finds for any collector. The other two cards graded by CSG feature Lou Gehrig. Together, the six represent the most valuable of the original 1933 Goudey Set, demanding thousands of dollars per card in any condition. READ MORE
    1 point
  39. It shouldn't take too much longer from here. I got my 3/30 bulk back in my hands this past Monday. I think you'll be happy with the product. Unless you're a seller......
    1 point
  40. Very excited to see CSG grade more vintage cards.
    1 point
  41. Can you provide proof of this with screenshots? Thanks in advance
    1 point
  42. Seems like a problem for a community obsessed with centering.
    1 point
  43. you mean the job fair they had
    1 point
  44. A MONTH? Try 3 months! lol.....They took my payment way back on June 5th. Been in GEI for 2 and a half months now. These guys are unbelievable. They bit off way more than they could chew trying to hang with the big boys.
    1 point
  45. vsnej

    ...These worth Anything?

    Yeah here is another one I would save
    1 point
  46. DHoey07

    Sub Grade Cost

    So you are saying they are graded to a different standard??? They are looked at differently?
    1 point
  47. For me, the advantages for sending to CSG for a PC card that I have no intention of selling is that: 1. the slabs are beautiful; 2. they are cheap compared to PSA or BGS. I usually send economy and request subgrades as I like the subgrades for my PC. The quality and feel of the slabs is premium. At the moment, their resell value is not much as most of the public aren't even aware of them yet, their slabs are only starting to appear in the market and most buyers are still approaching them with a wait and see approach. Sending economy is cheaper but they come with a long turnaround time. I don't mind a long turnaround time as the cards are going to my PC and not intended for resell. If I were reselling, if it were high $$$ I would send to PSA atm or if lower to mid tier you can consider SGC. I believe over time they will continue to gain recognition and climb up value wise as a grader.
    1 point
  48. I sent my submission on 4-5 it arrived 4-9 I heard nothing about it being received until 6-21. I believe the turnaround I signed up for was 45 or 60 days can not remember and they keep changing it (Now over 200 days) but, that is not what I contracted for. I have sent cards to SGC and get them back in 2 weeks. This for sure is the first and last time with this company. GMA even does a better job of hitting advertised turnaround times.
    1 point
  49. Charizard hasn't retired yet, and never once suffered an injury.
    1 point