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  1. Some great news. A recent sale of a 1996 Topps Kobe Bryant sold for $1375. It was a CSG 9 This is more than all of the recent PSA and BGS sales for the same grade. There have been a lot of sales in the past few days. I mention this, as I have recently sent in cards to be graded and look forward to their becoming a force to be recognized in the grading field.
    7 points
  2. I recently received some cards back from CSG and sold a Jeter rookie for fair value. My suggestion to you is list the card for what you want it to sale for as a"buy now " or best offer listing. Some may try to offer you way less, just stick to the price you want it to sale for, eventually it will sell. Especially has hi HOF induction gets closer.
    6 points
  3. I love buying CSG or SGC 9.5s and 10s for 75% less than a PSA 10 knowing I'm getting the same card in better condition. Can't help but think many in the hobby have lost their minds or, at the very least, are acting in a very short sighted manner.
    6 points
  4. Great to be in this forum. We're excited about that CSG grading option and have sent them some cards to try them out. Historically, we've been pretty loyal to PSA but choice and competition is good. Looking forward to dealing with others in this forum. FT13 COLLECTIBLES www.ft13collectibles.com
    5 points
  5. My bulk was delivered 3/15 and showed up as received today. Hang in there.
    4 points
  6. my only regret is sending my 3 best shaq traded rookies to PSA and now they are in limbo.... so sad
    4 points
  7. musakk

    CSG slab resale values

    CSG is part of a much larger company that has a strong reputation in other collectibles. I know in the coin world, their sister organization (NGC) is considered one of the grading companies that is well respected. When choosing an alternative to PSA, the years of experience and established reputation in coin grading drew me to CSG. The market will follow. Personally, I'm not concerned about the resale value being compromised because they are not PSA. However, I keep crow at a low simmer in my crock pot, just in case I need to eat it...
    4 points
  8. I agree CSG should be transparent to what are mostly new customers. I have a submission received March 10 that still isn’t entered in the CSG system. So that means AT LEAST 3-4 weeks on top of the stated turnaround time. Just be honest with people and it will go better here as you begin.
    4 points
  9. Come on people. This can't be your first time submitting cards for grading. If it's not, then you know how it works. If it is your first, then you are late to the party and should go ahead and quit now. Turn around timeclock starts once they have entered your cards into the system as Received, not when the package lands at their doorstep. If you all have issues with CSG and the smaller than it's made out to be backlog they have, I implore you to call them and have them send your packages back. I hear PSA is open and accepting submissions right now. Maybe you could try BGS also. I have not
    4 points
  10. Palmetto Cards

    Happy to be here!

    Sent in my first sub this week. So glad there are more options now for grading companies and I don't have to pay $100/card to *other* big graders and wait 3-4 months to get cards back!!! GO CSG!
    4 points
  11. This is great news as I’m about to submit 100+ Various Jordan’s (very few duplicates) some kobe rookies and more Planning to sell all. Then will be splitting the earnings with my pop as it was him and I who collected and took care of them in the 90’s
    4 points
  12. Now this is an added touch for CSG. The fact the company wants to interact with customers is a plus. sent my first two submission to test the waters (15+10) level. One submission was 5 cards snd the other 6. They arrived safely and am looking forward to tracking them when out into the system. My next submission will be larger as picture shows I also look forward to using CGC, yes son love Pokémon and we opened lots of 1st Edition Team Rocket, but did not play the game.
    4 points
  13. I respect your opinion but totally disagree. I love what is happening and hope it continues to grow. Speculative buying and flipping is fantastic and generates significant interest. I wish you the best!
    4 points
  14. Do you want flipping and speculative buys out of the stock market, too? You fail to realize that flipping and speculation is actually a significant part of the growth and growing legitimacy of the hobby as an alt investment.
    4 points
  15. Hi @ThomasAA, Thank you for your post. CSG typically receives packages into the system within 72 business hours of being delivered. Unfortunately, we are experiencing a backlog at the moment which will cause a delay. Once your submission is entered, you will receive an automated confirmation email and the submission will be visible in the submission tracking section of your account. Side note - this forum is for general sports card talk and is not monitored by CSG. For any CSG specific questions, please use the "Ask CSG" forum or contact us at Service@csgcards.com
    4 points
  16. With the lowest prices for PSA and BGS at $20+ per card (in their +/- 9 month economy turn around time, which is ridiculous), there is no chance to buy, grade, and then quickly flip lower end or speculative cards such as, for example, a second year Donovan Mitchell silver prizm or a, let's say, 10 2017 John Collins Hoops RCs. I am praying that the hobby will see that CSG is equally as good if not better, as it seems they have pulled all of the right levers to start. I've sent in around 400 cards already, single grade service (no sub grades). Time will tell how this pans out for everyone but
    3 points
  17. Let's not underestimate the importance of the PSA shut down. If anyone has market share data, I'd love to see it. But there are many indicators out there of the size of the problem. PSA said they have a 10 million card backlog. PSA said they recently had in a 3 day period the volume of submissions that they'd had in 3 months last year. PSA is the biggest by far, and the others can't possibly absorb their business. They probably all had a more-or-less proportional increase in submissions themselves--even before PSA shut down--because the whole market is exploding. I don't kn
    3 points
  18. for information purposes, my 50 card bulk order was logged as received today, it was delivered and signed for on 3/15 hope this helps people
    3 points
  19. Anyone who never anticipated something like this happening is either very naive or very unfamiliar with the current state of the grading industry 🤷🏻‍♂️😅
    3 points
  20. PSA is #1, but they just opened the door for someone else to step into it. This is the absolute worst time for them to do this with CCG's pedigree and impeccable reputation. PSA's allure is they hand out 10's like the're nothing. I have seen hundreds of PSA 10's that have zero business being 10s. Their grading system is archaic, but why would they change to a system that would make it harder to hand out 10s like they do?
    3 points
  21. People don't like flippers or junk wax submissions Lets do all the things you want to do...WTF??????? How about mind your own business and don't worry about what is submitted or not submitted. The problem is a lack of the supply for the demand. Open a west coast submission center and one in Texas. It's not like the demand isn't there. Bottle neck opened.
    3 points
  22. LDarkseid1

    My First submission

    Hey Everyone, Happy to be the first person to start a thread here, wooohoo! So I sent in 61 cards for the bulk tier in early March, mainly from a 1989 and 1990 Fleer Basketball Wax box. Will post the results when they're graded in probably 2 more months. It seems from what I've noticed it's very hard to get either of their two versions of a 10, where as PSA gives 10's out somewhat frequently. So I'm feeling pretty unhopeful that any of my 61 cards will get a 10. I kind of feel like those two grades are being treated as 9.9's are in the comic world, but I guess we'll see. They were al
    3 points
  23. Thank you for the clarification! Since you guys are experiencing a few weeks backlog of entering submissions into your system it might be best to state that on the website or update the turnaround times. I found the wording around that a bit confusing as I assumed the 25 working day turnaround would start when you received the package in the mail. When in fact it is 25 working days plus a few weeks to enter into the submission. (On a side note, the customer service has been amazing so far and this forum is a great addition!)
    3 points
  24. Hello @Jeremy Amundson, You can ship multiple CSG packing lists (submission) in one inbound package. Please note that the submissions will be returned separately when completed.
    3 points
  25. Yes, this is going to crush CSG early on. They should limit submissions to a set number per week. Say 75 per address. You've got people already claiming they send in 200-300 per week. If that's the case, they are in for some pain.
    3 points
  26. GregHa

    Disappointed.

    They do grade them..
    3 points
  27. I dropped them off in person at a local card show near their HQ in Sarasota FL. I had them back in 21 days!
    3 points
  28. If you are in the business of selling cards then times couldn't be any better to get graded with CSG. Sure the resale value will be slightly higher with PSA but right now time is the most important factor. Can a seller wait over 1 year to get their cards back? I just submitted a large lot and by the time they are done, CSG cards will be all over the ecommerce sites for at least 4 months. So far I am pleased with sales results from EBay.
    3 points
  29. "if the two lowest sub-grades are the same, then that is the final grade for the card" I actually like that reasoning a lot. If you had two 10s and two 7s, I am glad the card wouldn't be noted as an 8.5 like BGS would do.
    3 points
  30. Gottsword: From a fellow Michiganer I wish you the best. I plan on doing the same thing but do not have a pop to split with. My sweet wife will do just fine as a substitute.
    3 points
  31. FYI, their P.O. Box is actually inside their facility. So once you see your package has been delivered, it is actually on site. Going by what it takes for getting Pokemon/MTG cards graded, it takes about 2-3 weeks then to log it into the system as "received".
    3 points
  32. I don't think it's going to be a matter of CSG interest increasing. I think (hope) people are going to wise up and realize there's no reason PSA should be the industry standard. It's going to be difficult for them to expand their team significantly without a drop in quality. This is something they can't afford as they're already seen as the easiest and most lax of the major grading companies (which is why they receive the volume they do). They have also been front and center for every major grading scandal. People asking why you didn't use PSA are only showing their inexperience and lack of kn
    3 points
  33. jsrva

    Turnaround Times

    I submitted an Economy order to CSG that was logged in on 3/11. They finished grading and shipped the cards yesterday, 3/25. Two weeks....tremendous turnaround time. Hope it lasts.
    3 points
  34. CSG has developed a proprietary algorithm to determine a card’s final grade based on its sub-grades. While we can’t reveal how we arrive at a final grade and sub-grades for a specific card, we can share some guidelines. First, it is important to note that the final grade is not simply an average of the sub-grades. Rather, it is based on numerous rules that are built into CSG’s proprietary systems and grading process. For example, the final grade can be no more than 1 point higher than the lowest sub-grade. In addition, if the two lowest sub-grades are the same, then that is the final grade for
    3 points
  35. In April. An announcement will be coming soon on the webpage and through social media.
    3 points
  36. This BRAND NEW BUSINESS name CSG is open to feedback by creating a wide open forum right from the get go. They understand the power of social media and connection. I personally have submitted 55 cards to CSG. I trust their business model and credibility. Yes, I am watching diligently how they handle these first four orders, but I am openly helping them with feedback and not judging.
    3 points
  37. PSA doesn't give subs and they are #1. Although, with their new ownership, ill bet they roll out sub grades within the next 6 to 12 months if not sooner. Just a guess on my part.
    3 points
  38. TheRealKyleMcC

    Submit

    From my understanding you can submit only one card, if you desire. There are no minimum limits other than with the bulk submissions. To qualify for that $8 a card rate you must submit at least fifty cards.
    3 points
  39. I’ve been in the market for graded cards and grading for years/decades. Great to see CSG get in.
    3 points
  40. I'm a Duncan collector and like you guys have been frustrated with the turnaround times with PSA and BGS. I have a lot of pending cards with PSA but has sent two batches of cards to CSG. Liking what I see from those who has gotten their cards back. Cant wait for mine and hopefully to start sending more serious cards like the one below. Hopefully, my two trial batches would be just as what I see being shown in youtube and I'll start sending more heat.
    2 points
  41. rms13

    2020-21 NBA HOOPS

    technically Panini is the manufacturer and Hoops is the set
    2 points
  42. In addition, PSA did so right at release time for Prizm Basketball and Bowman Baseball. Two of the biggest submission products. So, you could say their timing was just right both to benefit themselves as well as make their competition look bad. I know CSG is going to have high turn around times now but as long as they aren't the same length as PSA I am ok with it. Not thrilled but I can live with it.
    2 points
  43. Thank you for your question. We know that turnaround times are important to our customers. We are currently experiencing extremely high submission volumes and are working hard to complete submissions as quickly as possible while ensuring the quality of our services.
    2 points
  44. Yes, We will be rolling out something soon to help explain why a card is being returned.
    2 points
  45. I'm sorry that there were some errors. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We continually work to improve so we don't "strike out" again.
    2 points
  46. Why anyone would want the sports card "bubble" to burst is so ridiculous to me. It just screams "I am jealous I can't spend like everyone else, so I will cheer for the values to all go down" or "I used to like it when I had piles and piles of worthless commons" to me. I personally love how it is hard to get certain products. If they are too pricey, I pass. As far as retail, I wish we had this bubble when I was buying worthless 2010 Topps. I wish it was hard to get that product!
    2 points
  47. I agree with this. I've always said that some psa 10s are overgraded. If you want a 10 make sure it's 50-50 on BOTH sides.
    2 points
  48. Matt G

    PSA DISASTER

    Hi @Bryguywa Thank you for your post. CSG, has expanded to a new facility and is actively hiring qualified candidates. https://www.csgcards.com/news/article/8919/ccg-new-building/
    2 points
  49. fdhut

    Happy to be here!

    I need to get my cards graded asap and I cannot afford to waste 2 months even after paying $100/card. Very glad CSG came to the rescue. Hope they take over soon. Waiting for that day. Go CSG!
    2 points
  50. I wouldn't worry about this. There's a lot of hype around a certain grading company right now, but at some point, collectors will wake up and realize the condition of the card is what matters, not the slab the card is in.
    2 points